New Camera for Macro Recommendations Your opinions and details please
#1
Posted 18 March 2005 - 12:53 PM
A few years ago a professional photographer guided me towards the Nikon CoolPix 4500. It has been fun to use with its articulating sides. Great for pictures down at ground level or any level that would be awkward when trying to see on the screen what the lens is aimed at. I think that it is time for me to have a camera that will take images with greater file sizes for future use.
What are your opinions for a camera that is great with macro and a larger capacity for image size?
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#2
Posted 18 March 2005 - 02:25 PM
#3
Posted 18 March 2005 - 05:16 PM
I've been using an auto focus digital camera, and using my nikon film camera as backup. I usually get better control with the nikon where I can focus manually and look through the lens. I don't like using the little lcd screen on my digital camera, because I can't tell if the object is in focus. At close range, You can't use the viewfinder if you don't have a single lens reflex camera.
So, I'm thinking about a nikon slr digital camera ( Ithink it's the D70) with interchangeable lenses. I can use my lenses for my film camera with it. The only drawback is that the lens wont have the same effective focal length. In ohter words, my 50mm lens will be effectively about 100mm, and my 105mm macro lens will be about 200mm. I think it will work though.
If you're thinking about buying a camera, go to bhphotovideo.com. They are based in NY, and I've dealt with them before. They have great selection, and very competitive prices.
#4
Posted 18 March 2005 - 08:29 PM
robert weinstock, on Mar 18 2005, 11:16 AM, said:
I've been using an auto focus digital camera, and using my nikon film camera as backup. I usually get better control with the nikon where I can focus manually and look through the lens. I don't like using the little lcd screen on my digital camera, because I can't tell if the object is in focus. At close range, You can't use the viewfinder if you don't have a single lens reflex camera.
So, I'm thinking about a nikon slr digital camera ( Ithink it's the D70) with interchangeable lenses. I can use my lenses for my film camera with it. The only drawback is that the lens wont have the same effective focal length. In ohter words, my 50mm lens will be effectively about 100mm, and my 105mm macro lens will be about 200mm. I think it will work though.
If you're thinking about buying a camera, go to bhphotovideo.com. They are based in NY, and I've dealt with them before. They have great selection, and very competitive prices.
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When I was shopping for a camera last year I was looking to get a digital that would auto focus acuratly for macro. I also wanted it to beable to confirm that I achieved proper focus without downloading. Two things my previous camera did poorly. The camera that I found does this with flying colors out of the box was the Sony 828. It has little problem focusing even at distances of less than an inch. The screen on the camera has very good definition showing the crispness of a given photo and you can zoom in on the image(easily) to check for quality and focus in the different depths of field. It takes me about 20 seconds to take a shot review it zoom it and confirm that it is worth saving or not. No confusion or waiting I know if it worked or not right then and there. I am sure that there are other cameras that can do this, but I settled on the 828 for a number of other reasons including the massive (rechargable) battery life. It is good for 4 hours of review and edit time or three hours of continous shooting. It comes with battery and charger/AC adaptor. So you can use it all day in the mini studio. It has mutiple memory bays and can store over 3 gigs combined worth of shots without changing media. I have a 1 gig memory stick to go with it and that gives me about 100 shots at maximum quality. Being able really check for quality on the spot makes that 100 shots go a long long way on a trip where I dont have access to a comp. The 7 X optical zoom is very handy for taking macro like shots from 5 to 8 feet. The image is so large that you can crop it and it looks like you were right in there inches away. I was looking at SLR digitals too and I really didnt find anything at the time with the versitility and user friendlness right out of the box. The cannon rebels looked nice but to get the same versitility I would have had to buy job specific lenses and they add significantly to the total expenditure. My only complaint is under certian circumstances there is a tendancy for a purple blue halo to show up. It does not show up much in my photos, but in one out of a hundred shots I take its there. I am told that a "polarizing" or "neutral density" filter will correct this. I have been very pleased with the camera so far and have got some great shots with it. Technology gets better all the time, my camera being a year old is probably way behind now, but that just makes it more affordable
I just need to take care of the lighting for my work shots, Learn some higher end editing software like photoshop, and I should be doing allot better with my work shots.
Tagane arts.com
#5
Posted 18 March 2005 - 11:58 PM
Does the purple halo show up when a black or dark background is being used? I have notice a halo now and then and have spent time removing it when there was no other image without it.
Thanks to the rest for the ideas. If there are more suggestions, please keep them coming.
Janel
What you can do, or dream you can, begin it; Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. ~ Goethe ~
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#6
Posted 19 March 2005 - 01:20 AM
Janel, on Mar 18 2005, 05:58 PM, said:
Does the purple halo show up when a black or dark background is being used? I have notice a halo now and then and have spent time removing it when there was no other image without it.
Thanks to the rest for the ideas. If there are more suggestions, please keep them coming.
Janel
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I just spent 20 minutes looking for an example, couldn't find one hehe. I can't make it happen either. It comes out with bluish purple glow around an area that has extreme highlights from light being reflected directly into the camera from a strong source like the sun. I took a family shot during thanksgiving dinner and the hanging light over the table was high and centered in the frame. the shot of the people turned out great, but this eletric blue translucent ribbon ran down the center of the table. I took ten shots all under the same circumstances and only one had the blue spectre.
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#7
Posted 13 June 2005 - 12:04 PM
MacWorld magazine just did a review of digital SLR with the top three cameras recommended. I haven't held a digital SLR yet so don't know much about them. What I did not see on the illustration was a viewing screen to check the shots once taken. Is there a way to see if the shot was successful or totally bad before downloading the data to the computer?
Janel
What you can do, or dream you can, begin it; Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. ~ Goethe ~
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#8
Posted 13 June 2005 - 04:42 PM
Janel, on Jun 13 2005, 06:04 AM, said:
MacWorld magazine just did a review of digital SLR with the top three cameras recommended. I haven't held a digital SLR yet so don't know much about them. What I did not see on the illustration was a viewing screen to check the shots once taken. Is there a way to see if the shot was successful or totally bad before downloading the data to the computer?
Janel
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If they actually did not have an external screen you likly can review via the veiw finder. My sony has a switch to go back and fourth between the view finder and the screen. Both work identical, but the external screen looks better and is easier on my eyes.
The new 8 megapixel Cannon is looking very temping. What were the top three in your magazine?
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#9
Posted 13 June 2005 - 05:16 PM
D70s) which I am leaning toward. I would recommend checking out any cameras you are interested in at:
Digital Photography Review
They have exhaustive specs and reviews of probably any camera you can think of.(and a lot more. Some people balk at doing research like this, but I would guess that most of us can't afford to shell out a thousand bucks for something we might not be as happy as possible with.
The cameras in MacWorld were 1. Canon EOS Digital Rebel XT(came out with 4.5 stars out od 5)
2. Olympus Evoly E-300(4 stars)
3. Pentax ist DS
Obviously one of the main concerns for us is the macro capability, which is why I chose my little
Nikon 4300 as a starter camera.
#10
Posted 14 June 2005 - 12:16 PM
Thanks Jim for providing the MacWorld short list for Patrick.* The article did mention a fourth camera just released but not in time for the article review. Was it the Nikon D70? I do like my 4500, haven't learned all of its tricks even yet, but there are times when I think that a greater than 4M image might be advantageous. I'll take a long look at the Digital Photography Review site. Thanks for the link
*I am away from home this morning, cut off from returning last night by wild and stormy weather. It is good to have family members to stay with in the city when I venture into the asphalt jungle to risk life and limb with civilization. Tornadic potential and hail were a greater threat.
Janel
What you can do, or dream you can, begin it; Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. ~ Goethe ~
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#11
Posted 14 June 2005 - 02:02 PM
I bought the Nikon D70 this winter and love it. You can change lens for almost any job you want. It has a viewfinder for image review and menuing, but you use this one through the view finder like a regular 35mm. I had a 5700 before and really got use to using the tilt and swivel viewfinder to take ground level pictures, but don't miss it at all. The D70 and the other digital 35's are what we have been waiting for.
#13
Posted 14 June 2005 - 08:45 PM

I cropped the photo and reduced the size, but it could be blown up to 17"x24" no problem.
#15
Posted 15 June 2005 - 12:40 AM
I know, picky-picky I am, but that is part of the macro world needs.
Thanks
What you can do, or dream you can, begin it; Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. ~ Goethe ~
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#16
Posted 15 June 2005 - 04:19 PM

The thing to keep in mind with the digital 35's is that you can get the shot you want just by buying the appropriate lens. This image is not cropped and full frame would be 3008x2000 pixels.
#17
Posted 16 June 2005 - 12:35 AM
Thank you for the extra effort. As I was going to sleep last night, I realized that I, too, should try a few shots with my camera for illustration, and to be sure I am getting what I was asking you for! Sorry for asking for the extra work from you.
I have been trying to figure out what the first screwdriver tip was sitting on. It looks like fog over sand. What is it?
Janel
What you can do, or dream you can, begin it; Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. ~ Goethe ~
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#18
Posted 16 June 2005 - 01:56 AM
It comes in at just under $400. The kit lens that they bundle with the camera is a good snapshot lens, but you can buy the body alone and pick up the lens that you need. I am saving for a 17-55mm Nikkor, but it costs more than the camera.
We can justify, if not afford a good camera because a good photograph is the first introduction most will have to your work. I had most of my early work professionally photographed, but that becomes very expensive over the long run and so I started doing my own. I spent over $800 in one year just on film and photographs so the digital is a bargain by comparison.
To answer your question about the sandy fog background, that is the result of shortened depth of field from hand holding and not setting up on a tripod. The camera will auto adjust the iso, shutter speed and aperture when you put it on auto. I am going to have to play around with that effect.
#19
Posted 16 June 2005 - 02:19 AM
What you can do, or dream you can, begin it; Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. ~ Goethe ~
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#20
Posted 16 June 2005 - 10:33 AM
I had to buy the 50macro lens for it, cost $500cdn , it's an expensive camera, over $2000cdn for the body alone...
But when one has a couple of thousand dollars worth of lenses that only fit that camera body, nice camera and I suspect the price will come down in time..
Only recomended for those with deep pockets or lots of lenses ..Or like myself has a generous brother..
Ray

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