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First try on a Menuki

#1 User is offline   Henrik Y 

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 06:09 PM

Ok, this is my first try on this. I have no idea on what I'm doing but I'm still not total green on working with metal.

A menuki is a little thing that's fits under the cord on the handle on Japanese swords.

First pic.

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 11:12 PM

Henrik,

It is great to see you making a menuki. What are you using to trace around the image? It appears to be a liner of sorts. Traditionally the image is trace with a chisel (kibori) to allow the image to be visible while it is modeled with punches from the front alone.

Once traced it is removed from the pitch and then the mass of the metal is pushed out to the approx height of the highest point on the final design. A wooden punch is traditionally used for this. It is next mounted face up onto the pitch and then modeled with matt faced punches to draw the from the the perimeter of the design toward the center. This allows for deep modeled shapes that seem to pop out at you.

I look forward to your progress.

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Fred

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Posted 15 October 2008 - 07:10 AM

Thanks Fred!

First I trace the outline with a small round punch. Then I was thinking about doing what you said. But it feels a little safer now when you've confirmed the way to do it.

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Posted 16 October 2008 - 03:05 PM

I look forward to seeing your progress Henrik. Take lots of images.

Fred

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Posted 14 November 2008 - 10:07 PM

It got to large to fit good as a menuki :blush: But it didn't match the rest of the fittings so it doesn't matter, it will be an other practise piece lying around in my toolbox.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 11:50 PM

Henrik,

It may prove useful to complete this size since it will give you understanding of how to work the metal. Do not expect perfection on your first piece. I am writing a short tutorial explaining how I do this technique. It appears you are using a black asphaltum based pitch. This pitch is not the most ideal to work with and yet it is better to work with what you have and to learn it's limitations. If you are using Japanese pitch then you are overheating it. It is best to keep the pitch the size of what you are creating. I was taught to mold the pitch with a cold hammer head to fit the rectagular shape of the piece I was working on. It is also helpful to model the design in clay or plasticine so you understand the volumes you will be working with.

More later,
Fred

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 03:56 PM

The pitch that I use is asphalt mixed with resin, turpentine, plaster and fat.


And a little update.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 06:45 PM

Henrik,

The pitch used by the Japanese is much harder and firmer than the pitch you are using.

It is progressing well. Keep us updated.

Fred

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Posted 01 December 2008 - 07:54 PM

A little update.

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Posted 01 December 2008 - 09:59 PM

It's a fat little reindeer :rolleyes:

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Posted 02 December 2008 - 12:03 AM

Henrik,

Progress looks good. It will be interesting to see it completed. Good choice for your first design.

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Fred

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Posted 02 December 2008 - 06:02 PM

I think I will name it Rudolf the Reindeer :rolleyes:

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And this will be the finishing pics, I don't think I will do any more then cut the plate around it to a little rounder shape.

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