Hi from Lancashire, UK

#1 Mumtaz Baber

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Posted 03 June 2007 - 11:53 AM

Helly everyone.

I'm typing from Bury, just north of Manchester, in the UK.

I'm a bladesmith, interested in learning how to carve steel, particularly horimono and kanji. Ultimately I'd like to apply my skills to Arabic and Urdu lettering also , but especially like dragons ....would like to be able to carve a decent dragon into steel ....

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Posted 03 June 2007 - 12:18 PM

Salaam, Mumtaz

and welcome. I think you've come to the right place

. I'll be posting a brief tutorial on carving dragon scales next week. I rather hurriedly put it together in response from a request some time ago.

You may also find my tutorial on nunome-zogan of some use. The process is essentially the same as the Indian "koftgari" technique. In fact most scholars believe that this Japanese technique originated in Persia, travelled the silk route through China and finally reached Japan.

I'm sure we'd all appreciate seeing some of your work, we're nosy like that!

Namaste, Ford :unsure:

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Posted 03 June 2007 - 12:44 PM

Salaam! Thanks for the warm welcome Ford!

Silly me , I wrote "Ardu" lettering above but that should have read "Urdu" .

As for pics of my work, I'll certainly post some , though I'm still very much a beginner

EDIT:

I've removed the pics and here's a link to my photobucket page

http://smg.photobuck...tazb/My%20Work/

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 09:31 AM

Hi Monty -

Did you ever post pictures of that Howard Clark blade you bought?

Peter

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 10:08 AM

PS_Bond, on Jun 4 2007, 10:31 AM, said:

Hi Monty -

Did you ever post pictures of that Howard Clark blade you bought?

Agent 007...good to see you here!

Yup, here's some pics of that.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Mumt...Clark%20Katana/

Been polishing it for what seems like forever.

To be honest though I do a decent polish but I'm not capable of doing this blade justice ...all I could get is a half decent cutting polish.

Should hopefully have a piece by Randal Graham coming soon, that should be a lot easier to polish than this 1086!

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 01:45 AM

Hi Mumtaz, it's always good to see another knifemaker here. You will find help and inspiration on this forum.

David

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 08:54 AM

Hi David, thanks for the welcome!

In fact I've had a very warm welcome here and I feel right at home with you guys!

Hey David, I like your stuff a lot, especially the bowies and the persians...sweet :huh:

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 12:13 PM

Welcome Mumtaz-
Do you have any pictures available of Arabic calligraphy on either wood or metal? I'm interested in calligraphic arts of all kinds and am always floored when I see beautiful Arabic scripts. I would imagine as the reed pen is shaped differently than a Western calligraphy nib, the engraving tools for Arabic script are also a different profile?
There's a member of this list -Dagistanli- who I believe does engraving work in Arabic.

-Doug

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 12:54 PM

Dagistanli now goes by the name of "Ekrem" here, if you want to look him up on TCP.

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 02:17 PM

Thanks Doug and Janel,

I'll search pout Ekrem aka Dagestanli
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Doug,

Check this out

http://www.biddingto...pertamulet.html

As for tools required to carve arabic calligraphy, I am assuming they may have a specialised type of chisel, but I'm just guessing there.

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 03:28 PM

Also, seeing as Ford mentioned koftgari I thought I'd share these pics

First the plain guard...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Mumt.../crossguard.jpg

Then the finished pieces...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Mumt...crossguard1.jpg

BUT....the arabic calligraphy ended up the upside down, so I got him to do it again .

Here's after he re-did it

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Mumt...crossguard1.jpg

I like koftgari....Salaam , Namaste, Satsriakaal ! :huh:

Those pics are small. To see larger detailed pics just click this link;

http://smg.photobuck...zb/Misc%20pics/

Then double click on the pic you wish to view and it should bring up the picture nice 'n large so you can see all the detail.

A friend in India made them

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 04:59 PM

Thanks for the Biddington's link- lots of info on it.

-Doug

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 05:02 PM

Aloha Mumtaz,

Where are my manners? A belated welcome. Your intro got tangled up in the dragon thread. I can tell that your background and interests are a positive addition to this rich brew.

Karl

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 03:03 AM

I forgot my manners! Another belated welcome to you-- Welcome to The Carving Path forum!

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#15 Mumtaz Baber

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 08:01 AM

Thanks Karl and Janel

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 10:12 PM

Mumtaz,

Please let me add my name to the list of those who are embarrassed by their late replies, and welcome you to the forum.

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#17 Mumtaz Baber

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Posted 10 June 2007 - 09:32 AM

Thanks Phil :angry:

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Posted 10 June 2007 - 06:26 PM

Hello Mumtaz,
Welcome to the forum! I've been absent for a while and am just catching up with recent posts. I am looking forward to seeing more of your work - I truly love the amazing design heritage of the arabic and persian arts. My mother was born and raised inTodmorden, Lancashire. That can't be too far from where you live?
Blessings,
Magnus

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 02:11 PM

Hi Magnus!

Wow Todmorden is just round the corner....I'm in Bury ....

Small world indeed

Blessings.....

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