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tsterling
post Jun 13 2007, 09:09 PM
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Here's my first carved/engraved steel practice piece (mild steel) with some rather hesitant practice cuts. I used my standard rusting formula of 1/4 cup hydrogen peroxide (steaming hot), as much table salt as will dissolve, and a little vinegar. After several applications developing a thick coat of red rust, I boiled it for an hour in strong tea. As usual, it came out quite black, but when I scrubbed it with a toothbrush (nylon) and non-abrasive soap, most of the black went away, leaving black spots and the gray you see in the image.

In the past, the nice black has remained, what did I do wrong here? Is it the mild steel, or maybe I used too much vinegar so the rust didn't "stick" to the metal, eating it off as quickly as it formed?
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- tsterling   Rusting Question   Jun 13 2007, 09:09 PM
- - PS_Bond   QUOTE(tsterling @ Jun 13 2007, 10:09 PM) ...   Jun 13 2007, 09:40 PM
- - Karl Carvalho   Aloha Tom, There is a link that has been posted p...   Jun 13 2007, 10:31 PM
- - Phil White   Hi Tom, I've had a fair bit of experience wit...   Jun 13 2007, 11:09 PM
- - remo   Hi , before i etching ( ferric chloride ) to m...   Jun 14 2007, 01:05 AM
- - ford hallam   Hi all, I think Phill has pretty much said it all...   Jun 14 2007, 09:51 AM
- - remo   link to metal higo inaly http://www.kougei.or.jp...   Jun 14 2007, 12:02 PM
|- - Glen Drane   QUOTE(remo @ Jun 14 2007, 10:02 PM) link ...   Aug 6 2007, 08:58 AM
- - ford hallam   This is an adjusted reciepe, based on a traditiona...   Jun 16 2007, 01:51 PM
|- - Glen Drane   QUOTE(ford hallam @ Jun 16 2007, 11:51 PM...   Aug 6 2007, 09:03 AM
- - Phil White   Thanks Ford, This is a very simple recipie, and t...   Jun 16 2007, 02:28 PM
- - tsterling   Ah, Ha! I knew you folks would come through f...   Jun 16 2007, 04:11 PM
|- - mikemc   QUOTE(tsterling @ Jun 16 2007, 05:11 PM) ...   Aug 1 2007, 07:48 PM
|- - tsterling   QUOTE(mikemc @ Aug 1 2007, 12:48 PM) Hi T...   Aug 1 2007, 10:58 PM
- - Karl Carvalho   Aloha Tom, A really cool old enamalist in one of ...   Jun 16 2007, 04:55 PM
- - Jeff Pringle   Also available at swimming pool supply places as a...   Jun 16 2007, 05:33 PM
- - Dick Bonham   Hi Tom, I accidentally found a solution that puts ...   Jun 16 2007, 07:05 PM
|- - tsterling   Thanks, Dick - I'll check into it.   Jun 16 2007, 08:43 PM
- - Karl Carvalho   Aloha Dick, No worries, mate. I think I've ha...   Jun 16 2007, 07:42 PM
- - Janel   Who among us could remember what they wrote on one...   Jun 16 2007, 09:46 PM
|- - wunderlich   QUOTE(Janel @ Jun 16 2007, 11:46 PM) -Whe...   Jun 17 2007, 12:45 PM
- - Dick Bonham   Hi Janel, I use a teflon lined pan to boil the met...   Jun 16 2007, 10:53 PM
- - ford hallam   Hi Karl, what are spangles?   Jun 17 2007, 01:02 PM
- - Janel   spangle 2 entries found for spangle-Merriam Webste...   Jun 17 2007, 01:05 PM
- - wunderlich   Hi, I found the word in an online dictionary. I wa...   Jun 17 2007, 01:15 PM
- - ford hallam   Hi Janel, thanks for that reference, I know what ...   Jun 17 2007, 01:27 PM
|- - PS_Bond   QUOTE(ford hallam @ Jun 17 2007, 02:27 PM...   Jun 18 2007, 10:34 AM
|- - Patrick Hastings   QUOTE(ford hallam @ Jun 17 2007, 06:27 AM...   Jul 5 2007, 06:09 PM
- - wunderlich   Thats It, Ford. Exactly what I meant! Karl ...   Jun 17 2007, 01:35 PM
- - Karl Carvalho   Aloha When applying the classic rust (iron oxide)...   Jun 17 2007, 04:34 PM
- - Janel   Hi Karl C Would you talk about using the gallic a...   Jun 17 2007, 04:41 PM
- - Sjoerd Brink   Yep, Daniel Brush's work IS eyecandy. For pla...   Jun 18 2007, 09:49 AM
- - Karl Carvalho   Aloha In doing a little research for a topic, I G...   Jun 18 2007, 08:34 PM
- - tsterling   Further rusting questions - I mixed up a batch of ...   Jul 5 2007, 05:23 PM
- - ford hallam   Hi Sjoerd' I've only just noticed the lin...   Jul 7 2007, 11:55 AM
- - Mike Ruslander   QUOTE(tsterling @ Jun 16 2007, 12:11 PM) ...   Aug 1 2007, 10:39 PM
- - mikemc   Hi Mike and Tom Thanks for the info, I will be go...   Aug 2 2007, 08:45 AM
- - Mike Ruslander   Personally. I don't go for the rust. I like a ...   Aug 2 2007, 11:31 AM
- - wunderlich   Hi Mc Mike, yes of course it is possible it rust...   Aug 2 2007, 11:41 AM
- - mikemc   Hi Karl Thanks for the tips, I am trying out 2 pi...   Aug 2 2007, 01:39 PM
|- - tsterling   Mike, I'd go with Ford's noxious potion re...   Aug 2 2007, 02:37 PM
- - wunderlich   Hallo Mike, it seems there is quite a kind of tun...   Aug 2 2007, 05:13 PM
- - Phil White   Hi Mike, If you are interested in alternate recip...   Aug 3 2007, 03:39 AM
- - wunderlich   Hi there, this may be of interest here. Metal ...   Aug 3 2007, 09:36 PM
- - ford hallam   Hi Karl, I have a copy of Hiorn's book. It is...   Aug 4 2007, 08:02 AM
- - wunderlich   Hallo Ford, you`re absolutly right regarding ...   Aug 4 2007, 10:59 AM
- - ford hallam   Hi Karl, thanks for those links, great stuff. You...   Aug 4 2007, 12:46 PM
|- - wunderlich   QUOTE(ford hallam @ Aug 4 2007, 02:46 PM)...   Aug 5 2007, 03:08 PM
- - Janel   I enjoy the history lessons, and the illustrations...   Aug 4 2007, 12:57 PM
- - Karl Carvalho   Aloha All, Thanks to Phil, Ford and especially Be...   Aug 4 2007, 06:09 PM
- - Phil White   Good stuff! Some of my favorite artists have ...   Aug 4 2007, 08:48 PM
- - ford hallam   Hi Phil, thanks for the link to the stuff on Bill...   Aug 5 2007, 09:41 AM
- - Dick Bonham   Hi Phil, Thank you for the Bill Reid interviews an...   Aug 5 2007, 01:43 PM
- - ford hallam   Hi Glen, firstly let me apologise for not having ...   Aug 6 2007, 09:19 AM
- - Glen Drane   Thanks Ford, I'll take all that on board when...   Aug 6 2007, 10:53 AM
- - Glen Drane   Thanks Ford for your help, can I ask one more ques...   Aug 8 2007, 08:09 AM
- - ford hallam   G'day , Glen, the different colours you may...   Aug 8 2007, 09:24 AM
- - ford hallam   btw, that nice light orange brown is active rust ...   Aug 8 2007, 09:28 AM
- - mikemc   Hi Phil, Karl, Ford and welcome to the path to Gle...   Aug 8 2007, 07:24 PM
|- - tsterling   QUOTE(mikemc @ Aug 8 2007, 12:24 PM) Hi P...   Aug 9 2007, 02:14 AM
- - mikemc   Hi again to Phil, Karl, Ford and Glen Sorry guys,...   Aug 8 2007, 07:26 PM
- - Glen Drane   Thanks Ford, Just needed some re-asurance. I...   Aug 8 2007, 08:50 PM
- - mikemc   Hi Glen Welcome to the path, Just had a quick loo...   Aug 8 2007, 09:05 PM
|- - Glen Drane   QUOTE(mikemc @ Aug 9 2007, 07:05 AM) Hi G...   Aug 9 2007, 08:48 AM
- - Phil White   Hi Mike, Glen and all. Glen, please pardon my man...   Aug 9 2007, 03:16 AM
- - Glen Drane   Thanks Mike and Phil, Phil, I think thats where i...   Aug 9 2007, 08:42 AM
- - Glen Drane   Hello Again guys, Probably getting sick of me by ...   Aug 9 2007, 09:30 AM
- - ford hallam   Hi Glen, nah! we're always happy to help....   Aug 9 2007, 11:08 AM
- - Glen Drane   Thanks Ford, I did read that .......... Thanks. J...   Aug 9 2007, 11:35 AM
- - mikemc   Hi Tom Thanks for the input, I didn't know th...   Aug 9 2007, 11:56 AM
- - ford hallam   Hi Glen, you could try swimming pool maintenance ...   Aug 9 2007, 12:30 PM
- - mikemc   Hi All Just looked at how to upload images (post...   Aug 9 2007, 12:39 PM
- - Karl Carvalho   Aloha All this discussion of controlled iron oxid...   Aug 9 2007, 05:55 PM
- - ford hallam   Aloha Karl now you are asking a serious question....   Aug 9 2007, 08:47 PM
- - Mike Ruslander   "Do the rust based ground first then mask out...   Aug 9 2007, 09:03 PM
- - ford hallam   Hey Mike, now you know a little about the dark, u...   Aug 10 2007, 08:32 AM
- - Glen Drane   Quote from Phil."The piece must be thoroughly...   Aug 10 2007, 11:26 AM
- - mikemc   Hi Glen As soon as I get through the basic outlin...   Aug 10 2007, 11:47 AM
- - Phil White   Hi Glen, The main advantage of the sodium hydroxi...   Aug 10 2007, 09:26 PM
- - Glen Drane   Ta Phil, Think I'll go with the bicarb, sounds...   Aug 10 2007, 11:34 PM
- - Phil White   Always wise to keep an eye on it for a while after...   Aug 11 2007, 02:20 AM
- - Glen Drane   Thanks Phil, Ford, and all Finnished the fittings...   Aug 11 2007, 09:38 PM
- - ford hallam   well done! that man looking good regards, F...   Aug 11 2007, 09:41 PM
- - Mike Ruslander   I think I suggested this method before. It's n...   Aug 11 2007, 11:34 PM
- - Glen Drane   Thanks Ford, could'nt have done it without ya....   Aug 13 2007, 08:44 AM
- - Mike Ruslander   I gotta say, Glen, that's fine workmanship.   Aug 15 2007, 09:31 PM
- - Brian Chan   Cop-out solution I recently bought some "Jap...   Sep 22 2007, 12:33 AM
- - ford hallam   Hello Brian, I like the way you are thinking with...   Sep 22 2007, 11:23 AM
- - Brian Chan   Thanks for the advice. I know this is a quick/chea...   Sep 28 2007, 05:53 PM
- - ford hallam   Hi Brian, QUOTEIs the tea/baking soda the best wa...   Sep 28 2007, 06:15 PM


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