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Jim Kelso
post Sep 24 2006, 12:19 PM
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I've done up a tutorial on the inlay of the silver owl as seen earlier in the "metal painting" thread posted in new work.

You can see the tutorial HERE

Any comments or questions are welcome here.
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Jim Kelso
post Mar 30 2007, 01:10 PM
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Whilst looking forward to Ford's nashiji, I'll post a bit of my own on a shibuichi(85%copper/15%silver) vase.
This as cast surface shows the graining to maximum advantage. Any project where you want this effect must be thinned(rolling or forging) as little as possible. On this piece you can see(along with the dust particles rolleyes.gif ) areas of general finer grain and areas of larger crystaline formations, some of which can be seen in the field above the peony.
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post Mar 30 2007, 03:39 PM
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these two images (of the same piece of metal) will hopefully illustrate what I'm describing.

Actually Jim, the effect you see on your cast shibuichi vase is called "kesho" in Japanese. It's the dendritic structure that invariably occurs in "as cast" objects. It's a result of the rapid cooling and consequent shrinking of the molten metal. If you recall, a while ago, Garret McCormack posted some images of an ingot he'd cast and then forged down to make a tsuba. I commented on exactly this aspect of his piece at the time. This dendritic structure can often be seen in cast ingots of practically any of the cuprous alloys and of course copper itself. Incidentally, the term "kesho" is also applied to the fairly large crystalline structure seen in Sentoku alloys.

Nashiji is a completely different phenomena, whereas dendritic structure is generally broken down in the forging process when making sheet metal, true nashiji always remains visible. If you are finding that you have to keep the processing of the cast metal to a minimum in order to retain the apparent nashiji effect then the chances are that the metal was held at liquidus too long and the silver molecules have dissipated too much.

The piece posted below was cast as a hamburger type pattie into hot water and was forged down from about 12mm. It is now a tad under 1mm.
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- Jim Kelso   Inlay tutorial   Sep 24 2006, 12:19 PM
- - ERB   Hi Jim, Great job on the tutorial! Thank you. ...   Sep 24 2006, 01:50 PM
- - Ekrem   QUOTE(Jim Kelso @ Sep 24 2006, 03:19 PM) ...   Sep 24 2006, 06:42 PM
- - Jim Kelso   Thanks for the comments guys.   Sep 26 2006, 12:16 PM
- - Samuel Rediske   Jim, As always your tutorials are great, nice c...   Dec 12 2006, 05:50 PM
- - goldcutter   I haven't been here in a while, and spent some...   Mar 19 2007, 11:38 PM
- - Mark Strom   Jim, Could you show a more detailed shot of the t...   Mar 20 2007, 04:48 AM
- - Jim Kelso   Goldcutter, thanks very much for your comments. I...   Mar 20 2007, 01:14 PM
- - Mark Strom   thanks Jim, the photo showed what I wanted to see....   Mar 20 2007, 03:28 PM
- - Jim Kelso   Thanks Mark. Here is the beginning of the relief a...   Mar 20 2007, 07:13 PM
- - magnus homestead   Jim, Thank you once again for your generous sharin...   Mar 21 2007, 03:08 AM
- - Don Barnhill   Jim, I love your work. The Owl is great. I use a t...   Mar 22 2007, 12:48 AM
- - Jim Kelso   Thanks guys. I'm on the road, but will follow ...   Mar 22 2007, 11:42 AM
- - Patrick Hastings   QUOTE(Jim Kelso @ Sep 24 2006, 05:19 AM) ...   Mar 23 2007, 08:10 AM
- - Jim Kelso   Hello again, Magnus, thanks very much for your co...   Mar 27 2007, 12:23 PM
- - DanM   I found a link to a class at Revere Academy next m...   Mar 27 2007, 05:31 PM
|- - Patrick Hastings   QUOTE(DanM @ Mar 27 2007, 10:31 AM) I fou...   Mar 28 2007, 03:31 AM
- - Patrick Hastings   Thanks Jim, I have been fleshing out my palette o...   Mar 28 2007, 04:10 AM
|- - ford hallam   Hi Patrick, you won't get any appreciable cha...   Mar 28 2007, 02:08 PM
||- - Patrick Hastings   QUOTE(ford hallam @ Mar 28 2007, 07:08 AM...   Mar 28 2007, 05:09 PM
||- - Karl Carvalho   QUOTE(ford hallam @ Mar 28 2007, 04:08 AM...   Mar 30 2007, 01:41 AM
||- - ford hallam   Hello Karl, Nashiji in shibuichi is a particular ...   Mar 30 2007, 06:12 AM
||- - PS_Bond   QUOTE(ford hallam @ Mar 30 2007, 07:12 AM...   Mar 30 2007, 10:34 AM
|||- - ford hallam   Hello Peter, hard to say without seeing the piece...   Mar 30 2007, 10:49 AM
||- - Jim Kelso   QUOTE(ford hallam @ Mar 30 2007, 02:12 AM...   Apr 1 2007, 02:34 AM
||- - ford hallam   These two samples; the crow design is flat inlay w...   Apr 1 2007, 10:27 AM
||- - ford hallam   and this micro-photograph (?) seems to show the fa...   Apr 1 2007, 02:19 PM
||- - Jim Kelso   QUOTE(ford hallam @ Apr 1 2007, 06:27 AM)...   Apr 1 2007, 05:44 PM
|- - Jim Kelso   QUOTE(Patrick Hastings @ Mar 28 2007, 12...   Mar 28 2007, 10:45 PM
- - Jim Kelso   Whilst looking forward to Ford's nashiji, I...   Mar 30 2007, 01:10 PM
|- - ford hallam   these two images (of the same piece of metal) will...   Mar 30 2007, 03:39 PM
- - Dick Bonham   Hi, It's amazing how much misinformation we ge...   Mar 30 2007, 03:54 PM
|- - ford hallam   this is an example of the effect called Kesho. Yo...   Mar 30 2007, 04:20 PM
- - Jim Kelso   Thanks for the clarification Ford. I remember that...   Mar 30 2007, 06:28 PM
- - Karl Carvalho   Aloha Ford, Jim et al Just taking a quick break t...   Mar 30 2007, 08:09 PM
|- - ford hallam   Aloha, Karl, glad to have shed some light...I for...   Mar 30 2007, 08:25 PM
- - Doug Sanders   Jim and Ford- thanks very much for those close-up ...   Mar 30 2007, 08:28 PM
- - magnus homestead   Thanks Jim, & Ford for this facinating look at...   Mar 30 2007, 08:59 PM
- - Karl Carvalho   Aloha Ford, Apologies for any delays; I had to wa...   Mar 31 2007, 09:57 AM
|- - ford hallam   Hi there Karl, those are fantastic pictures, espe...   Mar 31 2007, 10:49 AM
- - Karl Carvalho   Aloha Ford, Once more, you have lifted the veil o...   Mar 31 2007, 11:24 AM
- - Jim Kelso   Fascinating photos Karl. Thanks.   Mar 31 2007, 12:11 PM
|- - ford hallam   These are some microphotographs of classic eutecti...   Mar 31 2007, 07:26 PM
|- - ford hallam   These two images show a micro-photograph of a plat...   Mar 31 2007, 07:47 PM
- - Karl Carvalho   Aloha Ford, More fantastic material. My head is...   Mar 31 2007, 08:21 PM
- - Karl Carvalho   Aloha one and all, I want to thank Jim Kelso and ...   Apr 1 2007, 07:34 PM
- - Bartosz Ulatowski   ford hallam do you have any other picture of this ...   Jun 20 2007, 04:41 PM


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