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Here's a link to a handy little collection of drawing tutorials that may be of help to budding carvers. They are of varying quality but worth a browse. The studies of birds wings which I looked at seem pretty good in any case.

 

Here you go.

 

Perhaps they will inspire some drawing studies, after all, the pencil is probably your most important tool :angry:

 

It might even be an idea to have a dedicated area just for drawing studies, what do you think Janel, Tom ?( I know you'd probably be the one having to do the work of creating it.

 

regards, Ford

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Ford,

 

thanks for the encouragement of the TCP members to draw.

 

Here is the english page of a fairly good German tutorial site.

 

Drawing Tutorial

 

The german part is a bit more extensive but the main points are covered.

 

And strangely enough I just discovered Louis XIV was wearing a bedcover. :angry:Louis XIV

 

best regards,

 

Karl

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OK, I'll be happy to set up another forum. I've been thinking about it a little, so here's a question: Do we want just a drawing section, or something more like "Beginning a Project; Concept to Design." Seems like everything we've been discussing up until now has been more process-oriented, but not a lot on taking an idea from concept to the point where carving and/or fabrication can begin. Seems to me drawing is just part of that phase?

 

Opinions requested, including the title of the section!

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I definitely think that the drawings or sketches should pertain to the (eventual) carvings, even if it's just an idea that hasn't come to fruition. Otherwise we will be "The Drawing Path".

 

Hmmmmm, how about ..."The Drawing Path"?

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Morning Tom,

 

I think you are right, it ought to include the whole process leading up to the actual carving. In my mind that would include initial inspiration, research images, drawings from loose sketches to refined working studies and possibly even clay or plaster models.

 

All these different aspects can be explored and may provide more possibilities to those who are new to this sort of approach. For myself I'm finding of late that I'm using all sorts of methods to get to a point where I put chisel to metal and I'd be happy to post details of all the tricks I use.

 

"Beginning a Project; Concept to Design." may be a perfectly good heading, my head is too sleepy to think of anything more pithy this early, and before my first cuppa :blink: . Any other suggestions lads and lasses?

 

Karl, I'll give the Klein approach a go, looks like good fun. I'll probably get a much more confused print if I use my energetic, 6 year old, son :D , come to think of it he already uses his body to paint with :lol: thanks for the link too...."Vorsprung durch Technik" ;)

 

regards, and thanks Tom,

 

Ford

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Karl, I just had a quick look at the site you found, this phrase amused me; “don’t look into the muzzle of a given nag” :blink: I think he means "don't look a gift horse in the mouth" Which actually sounds equally wierd to a native English speaker :lol:

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Tom,

I think a miniature version of what Ford and Mike are talking about is similar to my post "design process" in The Way category. Personally, I find the process just as interesting if not more so than the finished work. No matter how well executed, a poorly thought out design is still a poor design.

 

Hope to see something soon.

 

Mark

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Karl, I just had a quick look at the site you found, this phrase amused me; "don't look into the muzzle of a given nag" :blink: I think he means "don't look a gift horse in the mouth" Which actually sounds equally wierd to a native English speaker ;)

 

....now you know were my posh english comes from. :lol:

 

splendid regards,

Karl

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:blink::lol:;)

 

now I just need to find out if there is actually such a thing as posh German :D

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Hi Tom and Ford,

Thanks Ford.

Tom,

"OK, I'll be happy to set up another forum. I've been thinking about it a little, so here's a question: Do we want just a drawing section, or something more like "Beginning a Project; Concept to Design." Seems like everything we've been discussing up until now has been more process-oriented, but not a lot on taking an idea from concept to the point where carving and/or fabrication can begin. Seems to me drawing is just part of that phase? Opinions requested, including the title of the section!"

 

I really like the ides of a "Beginning a Project; Concept to Design" forum. I think that how one conceives and develops an idea is as important as the final project. If you decide to add that forum please make place my "Fish" drawings with the final piece into that forum.

Dick

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In my opinion drawing is essential, for me it is duty to make many sketches before sculpting. But there is one big problem with drawing. It is very hard to learned how to draw good without someones help. I think it is very hard to do it only by yourself and I will say it is impossible without live model. I know that by myself. For about 5-6 years I've been drawing about 2-3 hours a day, 3-5 times a week and I still think that I'm very average in it. Try to study old masters sketches, not their finished work but fast drawing, they are absolutely wonderful and perfect example for how we should draw. And after that when you understand and learned it you can try to draw in your own way. But As I sad at the beginning, you should do as many drawings before sculpting as it is possible, it is my good advice.

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I agree with those that encourage either basic drawing and design concepts. I personally think first in my head and then develop ideas on paper. I know there is a non-school out there that thinks drawing is a waste of time. However I personally think that without the stages of the conceptualization process you waste time, mat'ls, and, effort.

 

wcraig :D

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I agree with the importance of drawing as a first step. Do it myself that way.

On the other hand, I have to say that I have known a very good carver who, while he could draw well enough, never did. Wat he did instead is have a whole load of plasticine at any time, and used that instead of drawing to shape ideas from. I confess that I tried it that way, since it looked so simple and fruitful, when looking at what he did. I failed miserably. While I can shape plasticine as well as any, it simply didn't work.

I suppose the moral of this tale is that we all are different. What works for one, doesn't necessarily work for another.

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I'm coming in very late to this post on drawing but I thought I'd add something to it even at this late stage. When I was a student studying Jewellery Design we drew constantly in order to develop ideas and concepts for three dimensional pieces of work. The process of drawing and exploration through drawing was essential in order to take ideas to a stage where they were outside of the mind and into the real world. Not only this but we studied 'source' material that we could then refine into drawn forms that could then be refined further into working drawings for Jewellery/Carving/Other.

 

The process of drawing and subsequent model making was essential in order to define the forms that could then be made. However the order in which this takes place does not necessarily have drawing as the starting point. There does not have to be a set sequence, where drawing is prioritised above modelling in wax/Plasticine etc.

 

I think a forum devoted to drawing/design/process would be an excellent idea and I would be only too pleased to add my insights to this. I have been drawing and designing 3d pieces of work for over 30 years and would enjoy the chance to give some input into such a forum for the benefit of others and to gain further insight from others whose experience is different from mine.

 

I can post some of my drawing and design work to this forum to start the ball rolling if this would be useful with the associated 3d work resulting from it. I think if the theme is drawing as an important part of the design process then we could get a really good forum going.

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definitely drawing! just in case you need it

 

​if you carve, tracing is important; tracing is drawing, though 3d is a different dimension...

 

CAD is a 3d way of drawing, carving is a 3d way of making your idea physical

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