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    Cutting Jade/stone With A Rotary Tool

    Wow! What great information! Thanks Janel.
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    Cutting Jade/stone With A Rotary Tool

    You're right Danny. I did a search and looked at some of Kenneth's work. Very impressive! Thanks again for the advice. Got my tupperware and sponge so I'm going to give it a try this weekend.
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    Cutting Jade/stone With A Rotary Tool

    Thank you everyone. I'm learning exactly how little I know about cutting stone! Danny, that's an interesting setup you have with the garden sprayer. If I end up enjoying the stone carving as much as I enjoy bone carving I'll definitely have to make a setup like that. It sounds, though, like all I need to get started is a small container, maybe like a Tupperware container, with a little water in it. Should I keep the stone totally submerged in water when I'm cutting and shaping it? If so, I was thinking of putting it on a kitchen sponge in the water container and using that as a work surface. Has anyone tried something like that or is that overkill? Do I just need to keep the stone and bur moist as opposed to submerged when I work? Maha, there is a very active group of bone carvers on facebook. If you're interested in being part of that community please come over and join us. Search for the "Bone Carvers in Exile" and "Bone Carving" pages and join up. Thanks again. Paul
  4. I have been carving bone as a hobby for the past couple of years. I went to the Tucson Gem Show a couple of weeks ago and came home with some Jade and Jasper with the thought that I'd like to try carving it into some basic shapes, like a hei toki or a basic hook shape and see what it's like. I have a Foredom rotary tool and bought some diamond burs in 80, 150 and 220 grit. I've done a youtube search for info on Jade carving with a rotary tool and came up empty although I did find plenty of stone cutting videos that used large, stationary equipment. I also did a search in this forum and didn't get any hits. My workbench is set up for bone carving so no running water. I have a diamond cutting wheel that should do for cutting the stone, but how do I cut and shape a pendant out of stone if I don't have the running water that I've seen in the stone cutting videos? Is it even possible? Any and all suggestions and ideas will be appreciated.
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    Bone Carving

    I buy my bone at either PetSmart or Petco. The bone is clean, wrapped and ready to use. The 6" piece goes for $4.99 and if you cut carefully you can get up to 8 bone blanks out of it. It's the only way to go!
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    Creating the Knotted Ridge Lashing

    Nice job Jaymes. I'm impressed with your first attempt. I'm still working on getting a clean knotted ridge but thanks to Brent at least I have an idea about how to do it. Nice carving as well. Did you use a scroll saw or a manual jeweler's saw to get the cutout detail? Paniolo
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    Different style lashing

    Really nice work Damien. I'm not familiar with the solomon's bar but I'm going to make sure I get to the library tomorrow to get a book on knots and find out what it is. It gives your carvings a very seamanlike appearance. I've been using beef bone for my carvings -- easy to find at Petsmart or Petco and inexpensive. What made you decide to use Camel bone? Is it different from beef bone? How difficult is it to source Camel bone?
  8. I recently purchased a CD ROM showing how to carve a Maori bone hook from a carver in New Zealand that didn't deliver on what was promised on the website. Rather than toss the CD I've decided to make it available to others. This will only be useful to you if you're BRAND NEW to bone carving and at the point of still trying to figure out what you'll need in your kit. If you've carved even your first bone, you won't find much use in this CD. There's an old adage that says you get what you pay for. I didn't in this case, but you will because I'm willing to give this away to a brand new bone carver for nothing -- absolutely free. I won't even charge for mailing it to you. Only two caveats: 1) you must be in the U.S. so mailing costs are reasonable, and 2) you pass it on to another new bone carver after you've gotten what you need from it for the same price -- free. If you want to take me up on this please send me an e-mail through the private message function on this forum. If anyone else is interested to know more about this CD so you don't make the same mistake I did, please feel free to contact me via PM as well.
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    Knotted Ridge Lashing

    OH MY GOODNESS! This is fantastic Brent. I've struggled with this for a long time, as you probably saw with the picture of the lashed carving that I posted. I've even gone as far as to carve a piece and get it ready to lash right up to the point of the knotted ridge and took the nearly-finished piece to the lady who runs the bead shop in the small town where I live in Arizona. She studied Chinese knotting techniques in Hong Kong for several years and I thought she might be able to figure it out so I left the carving, my copy of the Myhre book and a picture of a finished piece from the coffeewaffle blog with her. 10 days now and she still hasn't figured it out. I can't wait to go get that piece back and give your method a try. Thank you very much for posting this. The 110+ degree Arizona summer is keeping me out of my garage workshop for a couple of months so I won't be able to do much carving until around September time, but seeing how to create this knotted ridge will open up all kinds of new carving possibilities for me. Thanks again for posting your video.
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    Creating the Knotted Ridge Lashing

    Hi Damien, I went over to the Who's Who section yesterday and saw the thread from the new kiwi. Take a look at www.kiwibone.com as well to see some intricate, fascinating carvings. I'm hoping his carving CD ROM will help me make my etching a little cleaner. I have tried both gravers and the rotary tool with etching burrs and still get uneven, rough and pitted lines. Perhaps it's a matter of practice but I also think technique, or my lack of it, has a lot to do with it. Yes, the knot I was referring to was on the latest picture that you posted. That makes a nice, clean, interesting finish. I think it's funny that so many people refer me/us to the Myhre book, which I've looked at until my head hurts. Perhaps I'm just thick but I can't seem to fill in the blanks between those knot tying picture steps. I watched Louie the Fish lash on a video, though, and I could do it. I hope Billy comes through with that video sometime soon! Paul
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    Creating the Knotted Ridge Lashing

    Hi Damien, That's a nice looking knot you've come up with. Is that original or did you find instructions somewhere? I buy all my artificial sinew from vendors on eBay. Good price and good quality. Just got a bunch in dark brown from a shoe manufacturer in Canada. I'm still using heavy 3 ply waxed nylon from jewelsinfiber.com for the actual lashing. Do you make your own bone toggles for the cord? I do but I must admit that mine don't look as good as yours do. I cut a groove in mine and wrap the cord around it, then keep it all together with waxed nylon whipping. I hope you hear from the new carver with lashing experience. I just ordered a CD ROM about bone carving from a guy in New Zealand -- kiwibone.com. I don't know if it will have any information about lashing on it, but if it helps me better learn to carve with gravers and hand tools it will be worth it. I'll let you know if there is any lashing information on it once I receive it. Paul (Paniolo)
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    Creating the Knotted Ridge Lashing

    Damien, I'm in Arizona so you're a lot closer to the beach than I am! The reason I asked was because I occasionally have reason to travel to the San Fran Bay Area for business or to visit family that lives there. If you were in the vicinity I would have been happy to have met you and shown you what I've learned so far. I asked Louie the Fish in an e-mail if he would consider having a workshop for people like us to learn bone carving and lashing the right way but I never received a reply. There is a guy in NZ that does week-long or longer workshops on bone carving but Hawaii would be a lot easier, not to mention cheaper, for those of us in the western U.S. I hope someone out there will be kind enough to post some lashing tutorials for all of us beginners. Until then we'll have to do as you say and keep on the trail. Paul
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    Creating the Knotted Ridge Lashing

    Those are some nice hooks Damien. Do you use a Dremel or manual gravers to engrave the detail on the hooks? Where are you physically located? I see it says California on your information. What part of California? Louie the Fish recently posted pictures of some of his new work on tikicentral.com. I don't know if it would do any good to maybe try to appeal to him to re-post his lashing video. He seems like a reasonable guy and I don't think hobbyists like us pose any threat to his business so he may just be sympathetic to your/our plight.
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    Creating the Knotted Ridge Lashing

    Thank you all for your suggestions. The sketch of the knotted ridge on the Coffee Waffle blog actually came from the Myhre book on carving, which I have and used to try the lashing that I posted. I'm still missing something but can't figure out what. I did leave a note for the author of the Coffee Waffle blog but didn't receive a reply. Damien, I was fortunate enough to learn how to do the lashing you're trying to do by watching a video posted on kettlebottom.com by a carver in Hawaii called Louie the Fish. He showed on the video how to do that lashing. I've been at it for about 9 months now and only a few of the lashings I've done are passable, but I'm getting there. I'd love to be able to refer you to that video but one day it just vanished. There is an abridged version of it still available on kettlebottom if you go to: http://kettlebottom.com/videos/web-only/bo...ged-version/247. The unabridged video was a lifesaver for me because I've never seen it explained elsewhere, other than the Myhre book which seems to me to be incomplete. Also, the lashing in the photo you posted allows the carving to move on the cord. The Myhre method does not. It's a real shame that video was pulled because I think it helped a lot of beginners like us to get into this hobby. Regarding the material I use for lashing, it looks like the material in the photo you have and I have also used is 3 ply waxed nylon. I buy mine from www.jewelsinfiber.com. Very reasonable prices and quality material. I actually prefer to use waxed braid that I buy via the Internet from a shop in New Zealand. I believe, however, that Tandy Leather also sells a similar product. The waxed braid is a little easier to use and leaves a cleaner looking lash. Like I said, I've been trying to learn how to lash properly for 9 months and I'll usually lash a carving four or five times before it looks even passable. I still haven't been able to do one as clean as the one in the picture you posted. I'm assuming that comes with time and practice, so I keep practicing. If I can think of a way to share my limited knowledge of lashing with you I will. If you have any ideas I'd be open to them as well. I'm not really tech-savvy and don't have a lot of fancy cameras, etc. I do have a digital camera but I don't think I could take enough pictures to make the lashing process understandable. It's much better to see the process done from beginning to end. Perhaps someone else will have an idea. There are lots of very talented people on this forum.
  15. Hopefully I've done this right and the picture of my attempt at a knotted ridge lashing shows up somewhere in this post. This is my first posting since joining the forum and I'm fairly new at bone carving so forgive me if I haven't got everything right yet. I did my best to create a knotted ridge lashing following the instructions in the Myhre book as best I could. As you can see, my knotted ridge ended up looking more like a bi-directional wrap than a ridge. For any members who have mastered this lashing technique, is there actually a knot involved with each wrap and if so, what sort of knot is it? The illustration in the Myhre book doesn't seem to indicate an actual knot at each wrap but somehow the knot magically appears in the photos at the end of the job! Can anyone share that magic with me?