Jim Kelso Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I feel like I've been playing catch-up ever since I returned from Japan in December. I've been busy making things, but haven't had the time to photograph them, but now getting around to that. Here is a pendant in two alloys of shibuichi (soldered) with 18k gold frame. The peony design was engraved using katakiri-bori. The flower itself may actually be considered more of kebori (line engraving) technique and was cut using the Lindsay AirGraver. The leaves were all cut using a chisel and hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsterling Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Lovely, Jim! Elegant and subtle, just the way I like them. Really like the two color shibuichi background. What did you use to darken the lines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kelso Posted May 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Thanks Tom! Believe it or not, the lines are not darkened. They look so because of the photo lighting. It's very frustrating photographing katakiri -bori as the real beauty of it is only revealed as you turn it in your hand and see the light playing across the various planes defined by the engraving cuts. It's quite lively in the hand. You can see reflective light hitting some of the wider cuts in the photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsterling Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Thanks Tom! Believe it or not, the lines are not darkened. They look so because of the photo lighting. It's very frustrating photographing katakiri -bori as the real beauty of it is only revealed as you turn it in your hand and see the light playing across the various planes defined by the engraving cuts. It's quite lively in the hand. You can see reflective light hitting some of the wider cuts in the photo. Aha! Of course, that brings up another question. I've been watching several discussions on the engraving forum about polished gravers to get that shiny cut that reflects light and looks black at one angle and shiny at another. How polished/smooth are the gravers you used for this? And, now that I think about it and have you on the hook, how do you sharpen your Lindsay gravers? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kelso Posted May 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Aha! Of course, that brings up another question. I've been watching several discussions on the engraving forum about polished gravers to get that shiny cut that reflects light and looks black at one angle and shiny at another. How polished/smooth are the gravers you used for this? And, now that I think about it and have you on the hook, how do you sharpen your Lindsay gravers? Thanks! You had to ask . Just kidding. What seems like a simple enough question leads naturally enough into an elaboration on my somewhat unorthodox sharpening method. Some may find it useful or at least interesting. Rather than bury the info in this thread, I'm going to start another thread that will tie a number of things together. Quickly though, I finish my gravers to the 800-1000 range. I don't find a mirror finish appealing. After engraving, the piece is polished with 800 grit silicon carbide and the horsehair brush (migaki-bake) Obviously, even at this finish, the light reflecting from these cuts changes the look rather dramatically even though it's not a mirror finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsterling Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 You had to ask . Just kidding. What seems like a simple enough question leads naturally enough into an elaboration on my somewhat unorthodox sharpening method. Some may find it useful or at least interesting. Rather than bury the info in this thread, I'm going to start another thread that will tie a number of things together. Quickly though, I finish my gravers to the 800-1000 range. I don't find a mirror finish appealing. After engraving, the piece is polished with 800 grit silicon carbide and the horsehair brush (migaki-bake) Obviously, even at this finish, the light reflecting from these cuts changes the look rather dramatically even though it's not a mirror finish. Thanks, Jim. I look forward to your sharpening thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fkvesic Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Beautiful work, Jim. I like the way the curves are echoed from the peony through to the frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kelso Posted May 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Thanks very much Freda. The design was inspired by a Peony(herbaceous variety "Exquisite") in our garden which was very sumptuously curvaceous. I'll try to post a photo of it. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Aha, I thought so. I saw you over on the bladesmiths forum. Beautiful work. -Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil White Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Beautiful work, Jim! Lovely flowing lines in the petals, you can almost feel the wind blowing over them. Thanks for posting. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arman Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 I feel like I've been playing catch-up ever since I returned from Japan in December. I've been busy making things, but haven't had the time to photograph them, but now getting around to that. Here is a pendant in two alloys of shibuichi (soldered) with 18k gold frame. The peony design was engraved using katakiri-bori. The flower itself may actually be considered more of kebori (line engraving) technique and was cut using the Lindsay AirGraver. The leaves were all cut using a chisel and hammer. Beatiful Jim .İt is sumptuously subtle . I want to ask you if there are any Japanese tool companies that sell all these special tools(brushes etc.) that they are used in japanese metal work or other crafts that you can place an order online ???? Thank you Arman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fkvesic Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 "The design was inspired by a Peony(herbaceous variety "Exquisite") in our garden " I've an old, red double peony with a slight perfume, cuttings of which have followed me from London to Scotland. Unfortunately, it doesn't do too well in my garden; it's a bit too cold up here, so I'd love to see photos of yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Anderson Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Jim, Thank you for posting your work as it's very inspirational for me. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kelso Posted May 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Thanks very much John. Freda, here's a photo of the flower that inspired this piece. Also, there is more discussion over at the Bladesmiths Forum HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred E. Zweig Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Jim, A very lovely and sensitive piece. Thank you for sharing it with us. Can you explain your choice to change from powered graver to more traditional hammer and kiribori tagane? Best, Fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fkvesic Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 That's a beauty of a peony, Jim. Many thanks for the photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kelso Posted May 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Jim, A very lovely and sensitive piece. Thank you for sharing it with us. Can you explain your choice to change from powered graver to more traditional hammer and kiribori tagane? Best, Fred Thanks very much Fred. I engraved the flower blossom and leaves in two distinct types of cuts, using two different chisels, to draw a contrast between those elements as they are quite different in form, texture and line. The blossom is engraved in light, flowing strokes, emulating the flower in the photo which can be seen to be very light and graceful. I wanted the leaves, by contrast, to be more textural and variegated as in the garden plant. The leaves were engraved using cuts, made with a flat chisel, that vary from narrow to wide in the classic katakiri-bori mode, with some hammer blows visible, simulating ink brush painting strokes. In the case of these Peony leaves, the outline of the leaves was drawn on the metal, but the chisel cuts themselves were largely impromptu, again in contrast to the more carefully planned blossom. The choice of the two tools being power driven and hammer driven is; 1) for the flower, I chose the Lindsay AirGraver handpiece with the Lindsay grind graver because it offers both comfort, control and unexcelled results when cutting very tight curves, such as in the stamens and end of petals. I used this tool for the rest of the flower(not leaves) simply because it was in my hand. Largely a matter of what I'm used to in this context. 2) To get the effect I wanted in the leaves, I couldn't have done better than use the hammer and chisel. I've used a flat chisel in the AirGraver to do similar work, but it is so smooth that you loose the hammer-blow effect and there is nothing more satisfying than hammer and chisel. There is always more than one way to skin a Peony, and I am loathe to suggest that my way is the best for anyone but myself. To me, it's results that count, and I think using the tool that you're most at ease with will translate to the best possible work. Comfort with this tool or that can vary depending on many factors. Thanks again Fred. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred E. Zweig Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Jim, A great explanation for your decisions and I appreciate your taking the time to explain. Thanks, Fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kelso Posted May 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Beatiful Jim .İt is sumptuously subtle .I want to ask you if there are any Japanese tool companies that sell all these special tools(brushes etc.) that they are used in japanese metal work or other crafts that you can place an order online ???? Thank you Arman Arman, my apologies! I had meant to reply earlier, but wanted to check some sources first and then I forgot! So sorry. I can send you a brush while I explore other sources. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natasha Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Hello dear Jim! As always, so fine and unbelievably beautiful! Your tast is so ideal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kelso Posted May 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 Thanks very much Natasha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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