Jim Kelso Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 This has been taking form since last September. I'll try to get a better photo after I work on the detailing. The water, which looks pink now, is five pieces of shibuichi in varying alloys(3) which will be darker toward the background when patinated. There is also a dark shibuichi(looks pink now also) piece that is to represent rock. It's the vertical piece toward the right that comes out of the water. Much work still remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janel Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 It is already exciting to see this! The shapes and motion are strong and pulls me in. Thank you for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Bonham Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 Hi Jim, Beautiful piece. I am looking foreward to more pictures. Thanks, Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Sanders Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 with baited breath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Hynninen Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Hi Jim! What can i say......all ready there is movemet...its beautiful In middle of the fall is rock, this spot is my faworite one...if i can even say that. Whole theme is a beauty. Pic left upper corner is some vertical carving, is it also waterfall but its in distance.? I think it will come clear to me when this is ready Niko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kelso Posted March 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Hi Jim! Pic left upper corner is some vertical carving, is it also waterfall but its in distance.? Niko Thanks all for the comments. Yes Niko there will be a falls in that background area. Just in pencil now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsterling Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Looking good, Jim. I'm also looking forwared to seeing more "in progress" images. Better get busy, I'm waiting... By the way, what is the size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Broadwell Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Jim, your work is so outrageously "cool", for the lack of a better word, that it's scary! How large is this piece? What is the black framing material for the shibuichi, ebony perhaps? What an inspiration! Let's see, a waterfall on a fountain pen or a knife handle. . . David Okay, I'm Mr. Visual. Saw the picture and forgot about the text. I see it's ebony, Jim. This layering technique would work well on a folding knife handle. Sort of an offshoot of the window frame technique, but much more detailed and dimensional. I can also see this technique used on a writing instrument, but would be more difficult. You've really got me thinking, Jim! David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Rediske Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Jim, that looks great, I am looking foreward to the "finished" piece. Samuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kelso Posted March 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Thanks again for the comments guys. David it measures 10.5cm at the base by 13cm high.(4.15" x 5.1"). There will be a Wenge base in which it stands. A waterfall pen. Great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus homestead Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Wow! Jim, This one is already so awesome. I love the depth and care you give to your work. This composition and rendering with the subtle layering of different alloys and wood - so very fine! I look forward to seeing more. Thanks for showing this, Magnus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Rediske Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Jim, that wenge sure will look nice with that. is the engraving aspect finished? Samuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Broadwell Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 A waterfall pen. Great! Getting those layered panels onto a 5/8" diameter fountain pen barrel or cap would be a challenge. I like the size of your waterfall much better. Looking forward to seeing the finished piece. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kelso Posted March 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 Jim, that wenge sure will look nice with that. is the engraving aspect finished? Samuel The engraving is now close to finished. More chasing to do and carving on the wood. The last bits seem to take forever as you don't want to overdo it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Strom Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Beautiful work and I do like the delicate composition. Waterfalls are a real challenge to carve...you have captured it a very elegant manner. Thanks for the photos, look forward to seeing the finished piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kelso Posted March 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Thanks Mark. Water is an interesting challenge. This piece was modeled after a lacquer and ink screen painting by Shibata Zeshin. It's not uncommon in Japan to interpret paintings into other media. I'll post the painting when I can get to making a scan of it. Here is a little closer view. Still lots to do in subtle texturing, polishing and patination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Carvalho Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Aloha Jim, Very cool. Inspirational for someone like me, who is starting up. Question: How did you experiment with the progression of metal colors to create depth of field? Did Shibata's work give you clues? I find going from 2D to 3D to be difficult. mahalo Karl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kelso Posted March 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Aloha Karl & thanks. The painting gives clues, and a fairly conventional painting technique is to create depth by the use of darker colors toward the background. I chose the particular alloys as I had experience with them and can get reliable shades. More to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Carvalho Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 Aloha Jim, Thanks for the insight. I am assembling ingredients (using Sugimori's recipes as a guide) for my patina trials. I seem to have a long way to go. (Feel like an alchemist.) We have some fine examples of Shibata's work locally. I go to see them for inspiration. (For anyone not familiar with Shibata Zeshin, check him out.) mahalo Karl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kelso Posted April 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 Aloha Jim, We have some fine examples of Shibata's work locally. I go to see them for inspiration. (For anyone not familiar with Shibata Zeshin, check him out.) mahalo Karl I'm envious! There is a fantastic new exhibition at the San Antonio Art Museum with a wonderful catalogue with work I haven't seen before. Highly recommended. San Antonio Museum of Art Also, you may find this helpful: Patina Tutorial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Carvalho Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 Aloha Jim, The patina tutorial was one my first introductions into the forum. I've been over it numerous times. Thanks. Am waiting to hear if an aquaintence is bringing back a migaki-bake back from Japan. He went over with a shopping list for metal carving chisels and I have imposed once again. Oh, the guilt. By the way, the chisels were listed by "red label" and "blue label", which I understand denotes for non-ferrous and ferrous work, respectively. There was a price difference. In your experience, is there really a noticeable difference between the two? I am at a crossroads; Japanese tools, shopmade, powered or (probably) a combinationof all. Anyone else have an opinion? mahalo Karl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ford hallam Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Hi Karl, Patrick and I have pretty much covered the differences between the two. on the "something fishy" thread. Anyone else have an opinion? do I have an opinion? oh yes! , I could go on at length, and probably will at some point shortly , but I maintain that if you are intent on discovering the fullest range of possibilities these traditional processes offer, or want to develop the kind of skills needed to work in a similarly expressive way as the masters of the past, then there is only one approach that will allow that. There is perhaps, a slightly longer learning phase with chisels but in my experience, once you get to grips with then you can really begin to understand how so much incredibly delicate work was done. As for speed or ease, I will challenge any electro-powered carver to a chisel off any time. oh! and sticking with the chisels and hammers is more environmentally friendly. Less power consumption and if there is a power out you can continue by candle-light. Just my 2 yens worth , cheers, Ford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Hastings Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Less power consumption and if there is a power out you can continue by candle-light.Ford I did exactly that last month Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ford hallam Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Hey Patrick, your thoughts on the transition to working solely with chisels may be of help and interest at this point. and the image of you huddled over your pitch bowl chipping away by candle-light will keep a silly grin on my face today. Now That's dedication! cheers, Ford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kelso Posted April 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Aloha Jim, The patina tutorial was one my first introductions into the forum. I've been over it numerous times. Thanks. Am waiting to hear if an aquaintence is bringing back a migaki-bake back from Japan. He went over with a shopping list for metal carving chisels and I have imposed once again. Oh, the guilt. By the way, the chisels were listed by "red label" and "blue label", which I understand denotes for non-ferrous and ferrous work, respectively. There was a price difference. In your experience, is there really a noticeable difference between the two? I am at a crossroads; Japanese tools, shopmade, powered or (probably) a combinationof all. Anyone else have an opinion? mahalo Karl Aloha Karl, It seems your question on red tang/blue tang has been answered elsewhere. The reds are lovely for chasing and come in a wide variety of shapes that can be further custom shaped and hardened to your needs. I have a spare bake floating around somewhere if your friend does not come through. The question of tool selection is a very individual and personal matter, based on many considerations, which I'm sure you can sort through. A mix works very well for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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